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Interview with Joe Macleod • YOW! 2020
Joe Macleod explores how poorly designed product and service endings impact customer relationships, sustainability, and business success, offering solutions for better closure.
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Good endings are crucial for customer relationships and product lifecycles, yet most businesses focus only on onboarding and retention
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Historical religious influences, particularly Protestant vs Catholic approaches to endings, have shaped modern attitudes toward consumption and disposal
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No-fault divorce cases demonstrate how poorly designed endings can trap people in negative situations and damage relationships
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Netflix’s approach to embracing customer endings led to higher satisfaction rates (85-87%) compared to traditional cable TV companies
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Many sustainability symbols and recycling marks are misleading - they often indicate financial contributions rather than actual recyclability
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The PANTS scheme in Europe demonstrates effective end-of-life product management by incentivizing bottle returns through deposits
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Progressive obsolescence emerged in American consumer culture, encouraging frequent replacements rather than long-term use
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There are eight different types of endings in customer relationships, including timeout endings, proximity endings, and competitive endings
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Poor ending experiences in products and services often lead to environmental issues, like plastic pollution
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Businesses need to design meaningful, emotional, and actionable endings rather than passive or hostile termination experiences
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The current sustainability movement focuses too heavily on “better purchasing” rather than addressing end-of-life product management