Lessons From the First Time to Make the Second Time Easier, Patrick Barnes, CEO AMP

Second-time founder & CEO Patrick Barnes shares hard-won lessons on building AMP into a HubSpot for ecommerce, from customer development to fundraising & team structure.

Key takeaways
  • Built AMP to be a “HubSpot for ecommerce”, offering integrated tools for online merchants with 20,000+ paid customers and 9,000 free users

  • Key success factors as a second-time founder:

    • Starting with deep customer development and obsession
    • Being faster at recognizing and fixing mistakes
    • Raising larger initial funding ($18.5M Series A) vs doing multiple smaller rounds
    • Being very conscious about cap table and equity
  • Strategic approach:

    • Focus on retention over maximizing revenue
    • Acquired smaller companies with strong customer bases
    • Built multiple integrated products customers can use together
    • Distributed team model with 4-hour timezone overlap requirement
  • Leadership learnings:

    • Need for clear single CEO despite co-founder structure
    • Importance of delegating vs doing everything yourself
    • Building strong culture while being distributed
    • Moving fast but maintaining high standards
  • Operational insights:

    • Customer development interviews remain critical
    • Document everything with customer focus
    • Unlimited book budget as company perk
    • Sales and success teams concentrated in NA time zones
    • Bootstrap initially with founder money before raising capital
  • Core business philosophy centered on:

    • Building sustainable long-term business vs quick exit
    • Product quality and customer satisfaction over ARR
    • Selective hiring of high performers
    • Clear separation of co-founder duties and responsibilities